tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6916168470376937425.post5133707095112429534..comments2024-03-06T06:27:15.764-08:00Comments on Earning My Turns: Open Access Computational LinguisticsFernando Pereirahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05849361902113771573noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6916168470376937425.post-76987282365095810232007-05-21T07:42:00.000-07:002007-05-21T07:42:00.000-07:00@HD: There is no connection between submission dat...@HD: There is no connection between submission date and appearance in my proposal, because papers may have to go around the reviewing loop several times, as they do typically in reputable journals.Fernando Pereirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05849361902113771573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6916168470376937425.post-64385330451855092992007-05-21T06:39:00.000-07:002007-05-21T06:39:00.000-07:00I this this model makes sense, but something conce...I this this model makes sense, but something concerns me: <I>"I don't see the need for a deadline. In my proposal, everything that has been accepted for the OA journal between certain dates is accepted for presentation in the conference..."</I> -- it seems like this might encourage exactly the same deadline-hounding as the current system. Unless there's significant variance in the OA acceptance, which is of course not good :).halhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162908373916390369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6916168470376937425.post-82623651723768541422007-05-21T06:20:00.000-07:002007-05-21T06:20:00.000-07:00@JH: I don't know of any conference on the model I...@JH: I don't know of any conference on the model I proposed, but I know of discussions on such proposals in other areas of computer science, although none has been implemented so far.<BR/>@CB: I don't see the need for a deadline. In my proposal, everything that has been accepted for the OA journal between certain dates is accepted for presentation in the conference as a talk or poster. NIPS has this format, and everything there is reviewed, although the reviewing is the traditional deadline+rush process instead of the more spread-out process I proposed.Fernando Pereirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05849361902113771573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6916168470376937425.post-74281106235034856002007-05-21T04:41:00.000-07:002007-05-21T04:41:00.000-07:00It is the availability of "revise and resubmit" wh...It is the availability of "revise and resubmit" which encourages authors and reviewers to spend effort on making good work better. This is the main deficiency of the ACL style, since an article is accepted or rejected irrespective of whether the author makes the suggested revisions. So only the more conscientious reviewers spend time on making suggestions. People inevitably complain about dubious or uninformed rejections more than they complain about this, but it is at least as important. <BR/><BR/>I wonder if there is a place for a conference in which nothing is accepted outright, everything is either a reject or a revise and resubmit. We could keep it small, and make the deadline September. Does this have any advantages over the OA journal?Chris Brewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15950294272852443488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6916168470376937425.post-15702919007515042022007-05-20T20:39:00.000-07:002007-05-20T20:39:00.000-07:00Interesting model for a conference! Has anybody ac...Interesting model for a conference! Has anybody actually implemented something this? I'm just aware of the reverse concept, where the accepted full papers get published in a special issue of the society's journal (I'm thinking of ISMB. Looking at their stylefile, they seem to require longer papers for conference submission than ACL, which might in itself be a good deterrent for many of the weaker papers).<BR/>But since many people can only justify their travel expenses if they are actually presenting, it might be necessary to have something like a poster session (this could also be done without published papers, like ISMB), where people could present their work in progress, or smaller projects. Otherwise, the conference might turn into too much of an in-crowd event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com